1969 Oldsmobile Cutlass/442 Hurst Olds Convertible clone

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Technical specifications

Manufacturer:Oldsmobile
Model:Cutlass
Year:1969
Type:Convertible
Fuel Type:Gasoline
Color:White
Mileage:17,892
Transmission:Automatic
Interior Color:White
Engine:Big Block Rocket 455
Trim:Hurst Oldsmobile
Number of Cylinders:8
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Description

1969 Oldsmobile Hurst Olds Convertible Clone
Opportunities like this don't come around very often. Every true Olds guy knows that the 1969 Hurst Olds Convertible is one of the most highly sought after Oldsmobile's of all time. From what I've heard over the years there were only 3 or 4 convertible's made. I will explain everything I have heard over the past 30 plus years. I saw one selling in California for $900,000, and supposedly, a second one was somewhere in Iowa. According to the legend, I heard the third one was totaled back in the 1970's. Now, the fourth one that nobody thought existed I actually saw in Waukegan, Illinois back in the 1980's. It was owned by a little old lady that loved 442's. When I first saw the car it was in beautiful number 2 condition and she rarely drove it. She did allow me to start it up and I have to say it sounded wicked to say the least. Her daily driver was a 1971 or a 1972 442 hardtop. I was in my 20's and I tried to buy the car from her several times over the years with no success, so I eventually gave up. I last saw it in the mid 1990's heading northbound on highway 41 in North Chicago, Illinois. It was a sight to behold! I tried, but could never catch up to it. Once again, the memory faded until I want to say it was about 2007 when I saw a copy of the Gearhead paper at my mechanic's shop. I read about a six page article including pictures about how that woman had passed away and her nephew ended up getting that exact car. The article said how the fourth 1969 Hurst Olds convertible was verified, and how the nephew had a nut and bolt restoration done on it that cost more than $90,000 dollars. That car was then appraised at a value in excess of one million dollars. I sure wish I would have pushed harder on that one. Anyway, it was a very fond memory of the one that got away. I always wanted one of these, so I did purchase an exact looking clone years ago for a little over $20,000 dollars with the big Hurst decal on the doors, but it only had a 350 engine. When I went to pick up the car, the seller said someone stole the large Hurst decals right off both doors. He had a magnet on the back side of the decals, and only used the Hurst decals at car shows. He said someone decided to walk away with them. He ended up having new decals made for me, so the adhesive is still on the back of both decals. I had sold that car with the 350 engine without the decals years ago when I found this one with more options that had a Big Block 455. I was saving those Hurst decals for this one currently up for auction. I did not permanently apply them to the doors. I kept the Hurst 3M Controltac Graphic Marketing System decals brand new as I received them. I couldn't see wasting those expensive decals on this car without the car being brought back to its initial glory. I just taped one on the drivers door to show how cool this car looks and that pair will be included in this auction. I purchased this car in Mentor, Ohio from a woman on 11/29/2003 who fell on hard times. The clean and clear title was issued to me on November 23rd, 2005. I have owned this car for over a decade, but never got around to giving it the restoration it deserves. After a recent heart attack and the rationalization that I have more than my share of overwhelming projects, I chose to sell this one to let someone else realize my dream of making an identical 1969 Hurst Olds Convertible to the one I saw in person. The current odometer reading is 17,892, but the odometer reading is blank on the title. Therefore the current mileage reading cannot be documented as genuine. I believe the majority of the states have exempt stated titles for mileage on current titles issued in any respective state for cars more than 10 years old. This car was that girls pride and joy back in high school, but she no longer had the room for it, and with her divorce she had no other decision than to part with it. This convertible ran when she parked it back in the 1990's. I transported this drop top back to Illinois where I grew up and then up to my place in Kenosha several years later. I did change the fluids and start the car up back then, but haven't done anything to the engine since. I can honestly say that this Big Block 455 did start right up and sounded strong with no unusual noises, except it was very loud. The exhaust will need to be done. It does have a Rochester 4-barrel carburetor. The engine was just cleaned up for this sale, and I'm not 100% sure that the wires have the correct firing order. This sale will include a fully charged battery. I know people will ask why I haven't tried to start it up before I listed it. Well the answer is, I have no heat in the shop where it is stored, and it has been brutally cold these last few weeks. It was simply a last minute rash decision to sell this car. Therefore, getting this car back roadworthy will be left up to the next owner. I've had many a Cutlass and 442's over the years, so I know how hard it is becoming to find a decent one with a Big Block Rocket 455 to restore. I'm selling this car as needing a restoration where everything on the car will need to be gone through to make it more presentable. This one has the original steel framed 442 style hood used on a Hurst Olds. It is just minus the fiberglass boxed hood scoop that can be purchased at a wide variety of aftermarket suppliers for around $250, and the whale tail spoiler that can also be purchased for under $250. All of the expensive stainless steel chrome body side molding, and all four stainless steel wheel opening moldings used on the 442's and Hurst Olds models all seem in very nice condition with no dents that I could find. The bumpers seem straight, and the 442 grilles look in good condition. There is a pair of Hurst Olds styled sport mirrors, but they are not original Hurst Olds mirrors. I didn't see any evidence of this car ever being involved in any accidents, with the exception of a slight blemish on the passenger fender in between the front part of the wheel well and the cornering light, thus hampering the opening of the passenger door. I'm sure if the bottom of the passenger fender were slightly adjusted it would allow the door to open perfectly. That blemish is not too noticeable, so I believe that fender, as well as every panel on this car can be used in a well deserved restoration. The engine currently in this car I was told came out of a 1970 442. To the best of my knowledge there was never a 455 put in any Cutlass or 442 back in 1969. I believe all the Hurst Olds models were the only GM A-body models that came from the factory with a 455, so to recreate this car properly the Big Block 455 is necessary to make it look like one of the 3 or 4 Hurst Olds convertible's made in 1969. This engine does have what I believe to be the proper 396021F casting numbers. This car was loaded with options for back in the day which include tilt wheel, power steering, power brakes, power convertible top, power trunk, and air conditioning. Most of the air conditioning components are still under the hood as can be seen from the engine pictures. The condenser is also in front of the radiator. I may have an air conditioning compressor around here somewhere. I will discuss that with the winning bidder after the auction. I don't want to sugar coat anything in this auction. This car will need a complete and full restoration where every part and every panel will need attention. I believe this car had one amateur paint job over the original. There was cracking paint in several areas, so those areas where simply coated with some white gloss spray paint to protect the body from rusting. The convertible top was in poor condition, so the old top was removed along with the original top frame, which was then coated in low gloss black paint and reinstalled. The top motor does work in the up and down position with the power top switch on the dash. Some fluid was lost reattaching the hydraulic lines, so some fluid will need to be added when the new owner installs a new convertible top. If the winning bidder is going to have this car shipped on an open carrier, I will make sure the interior will be protected by placing the convertible top frame up, and sealing the interior with a plastic tarp. This was originally a power bench seat car, but that was removed and replaced with the proper 1969 bucket seats that came out of another 1969 442 hardtop. Also added was the console and shifter, but the shifter is not hooked up. In between the front seats is the proper console for a 68-69 442, but for a correct 1969 Hurst Olds, I'm sure the new owner would want to find the proper dual gate shifter. The original column shifter is still hooked up, so the conversion to the floor shift will be the choice of the winning bidder. The front bucket seats had some repair work done, so they appear in relatively nice condition. The rear seats are originals, so I would rate the overall interior condition as good drivers quality. There is an old school Sanyo AM/FM 8-track player in the dash that is not hooked up, but the stereo position was never cut up to make it fit like was typically done back in the day. If the new owner can find an original radio, it will still fit properly in the dash. The front and the rear floor pans are the originals and from what I have seen have never been replaced. There is a new set of four black carpeted floor mats. The rear-end is a 12 bolt, but I am not sure what the gear ratio is. This 1969 Hurst Olds convertible look-a-like sits on a set of four B.F. Goodrich Radial T/A raised white lettered steel belted radial tires with good tread mounted on 14 inch Super Stock II chrome wheels to resemble the original Hurst Olds styled wheels in 1969. All four wheels have all four center caps, but without beauty trim rings like the original Hurst Olds styled wheels. The original trunk floor is in decent condition, but will need some minor repair work as seen in the pictures. There is a newer black trunk mat that holds an original jack, jack stand, bumper mount, and crow bar. Also included in the trunk is an old full size one inch whitewall ply spare tire with nice tread. This way once this baby is back on the road, if you ever have a mishap, you can avoid being stranded. In my opinion the frame still appears in decent shape, and this car is extremely worthy of making it into a sweet Hurst Olds Droptop. Included in the glove box is an original 1969 Oldsmobile owner's manual with the wrapper from the genuine GM NOS H/O emblem that was used on the trunk. I believe the plastic dealer manual holder is original for 1969. I have no other paperwork to document this car. These older classics that have survived for over 40 years are becoming harder and harder to find. The Nada Classic Car Price Guide that anyone can look up on line currently has a genuine 1969 Oldsmobile Hurst Olds with a 455, and air conditioning listed at $95,880 in high condition, which they consider anexcellent overall vehicle that was completely restored, or an original vehicleshowing very minimal wear. Note: This value does not represent a 100 point showcar or a #1 vehicle. Those vehicles can reach much higher prices. $59,670 in average condition, which they consider ingood overall condition that could be an older restoration or a well maintainedoriginal vehicle that is completely operable. The exterior paint, trim, andmechanics are presentable and serviceable inside and out. They say an averagecondition car is considered a 20-Footer! Theyhave the lowest condition value at $41,820 being considered a deteriorated restoration or a very poorrestoration, but mostly usable "As-Is!" The lowest value does not represent aparts car, but would be considered as the price for a car needing a complete restoration. If this were one of the originals it would most likely be well worth in the seven figure range if the proper restoration was performed. The numbers on a 1969 Oldsmobile Cutlass Convertible with a 455, and air conditioning are listed at $33,000 in high condition, $17,280 in average condition, and $12,659 in low condition. Whatever this classic convertible sells for in this quick "No Reserve" 3-day auction is a win/win investment. This Oldsmobile is an investment that I believe will continue to rise as these convertible's have consistently shown to escalate in value with each quarter. This classic Oldsmobile recreation is for the father and son that has some spare time on their hands, and wants to bond as a family unit with a nice well worth it project, or for the high end muscle car restoration shop that has the capacity to restore these cars to show car quality status. Here is a prime opportunity to acquire your dream car at a nominal price. This car is being stored safely indoors out of the elements. The deposit will need to be paid within 24 hours, and the balance is due within 72 hours prior to the pick-up or transport of this car. The title will be sent out the same day the funds are clear, or be kept in the glove compartment with the owner's manual for transport. Whichever way the winning bidder decides. The funds that are received will be going to finish up another project that I ran out of funds to complete. That is why I am allowing this car to sell for whatever it brings. I know my descriptions can be a little long winded, but I try to list and accurately portray everything I can think of when I write a description. This way every potential bidder can make the most informed decision prior to placing their bid. If you feel I may have left anything out please ask as many questions as you like. I pride myself in answering every question in explicit detail with the utmost honesty. Ask questions and you will receive honest accurate answers. What you see is exactly what you get! This car is being offered at "No Reserve" on a 3-day listing. It will sell to the highest bidder on Monday evening at 5:00pm Pacific, 7:00pm Central, or 8:00pm Eastern time depending on your location. Thank You for taking the time to read and view my auction!!!Good Luck and Happy Bidding!!!

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